so do you. but dammit, we can't give up in the face of terror. we never will. we never can. >> right. >> dr. carson is absolutely right. >> the way to not give up in the way of terror is to take guns out of the hands of terrorists. in this case, this was a domestic terrorist we could have disarmed perhaps through sensible legislation. i'm not speaking just about this situation. this is not a question about when we should attack the shooter. i'm talking about getting rid of the guns so we don't have a shooter. >> kurt, what do you think about that? >> americans have the right -- >> do you think we should have more dialogue about what marc points out, the fact that these guns are falling into the wrong hands? >> look, americans have the right to keep and bear arms. this idiot bought his guns legally. this idiot had a right to have guns until he decided to commit a crime. >> you're proving the point. >> the point is americans are not going to be disarmed, give up their rights to protect themselves and their families because some creep decides to go