you know, talked her lover into killing her husband. and there is this sense from a number of people trying to grant clemency. but why do you think? >> well, she deserves clemency for the mere fact that she has made atonement for her sins, for her wrongdoing. she's very remorseful. i definitely have been a part of the prayers for the gissendaner family. i've spoken with the children, kayla especially. and who are begging for their mother to be spared from death. she is a human being. >> but they didn't always feel that way, which is i think important to point out, nicki. i mean, i've been talking to folks close to this and i know that the children have been at the prison today and we haven't been able to be in touch with them because they aren't allowing cell phones in the prison. but these children didn't always feel this way about their mother. obviously they lost their father, but that has changed.