the statehouse it was right in front. and these grounds are a place that everybody should feel a part of. and these grounds are a place that should be -- that belong to the people of south carolina. and what i have realized now more than ever is people were driving by and they felt hurt and pain. no one should feel pain. you know we can have our disagreements and we can have our policy back and forth but no one should feel pain over something, not over a symbol. >> 57% of americans view the flag as a symbol of southern pride and not racism. is that surprising to you? >> no. because a lot of the people -- and if you had heard the debate in the statehouse so many look at it as honoring ancestors who fought and died for their state. that's the way they look at it. you look at people and this really is confederate proponents they are not haters. you've got people who will hijack it. >> who use the flag as a symbol of hate. >> right. but what we have to remember is