mitchell and head on to mexico. and the fact that, larry, it hasn't even been 24 hours since he was caught this is a guy in the hospital and that he has cracked does this surprise you he's cracked so quickly? >> no, not really. i imagine there's, no pun intended, a lot of people at clinton sweating david sweat right now. because he knows the dirt on the institution. he was there for a long time. and they were probably hoping the cops would have taken him out and killed him also. i mean, he's serving a life sentence so what does he really have to lose? >> you really think that? all of that planning and he'd be okay with suicide by cop? >> he necessarily wouldn't be okay with it but i'm talking about all of the people at clinton that probably helped him, staff members, other inmates, they wanted him dead. they didn't want him taken alive. because he knows things. clinton correctionals the people have been there for so long that he knows the dirt on the people.