longer, but you can see them protecting their flank a little bit. i think it's good to have someone in there stirring things up and saying to the mitch mcconnells and john brennans of the world, you just haven't made your case show us the data. >> matt great piece in "the new yorker" on this. thank you so much for hopping on the show. really appreciate it. >> sure. it's my pleasure. >> i appreciate both of you. >> so good to be with you. coming up next this crime wave putting some americans on edge. some of the country's biggest cities. are officers afraid to do their jobs? that's a huge discussion we're going to have. also, we'll speak live with a lawyer who just met with the suspect in the d.c. mansion murders. also nancy grace, she'll weigh in on this. she has questions as well. and the cover that has everyone talking right now. this is caitlyn jenner. this is the first photo of former olympic star bruce jenner as a woman. annie liebowitz photoshoot big