as you're describing it her. i can't help as i'm hearing this and i'm sad for you that you could not say good-bye. i'm wondering, brian stephenson as i'm hearing this man speak, why? apparently all that had to be done to set ray free was test the gun and this would have been over. it still took this ballistic test 12 years to free the man you're sitting next to. tell me why. >> this case is a really powerful demonstration of the problem, which is that we have a system that treats you better if you're rich and guilty than if you're poor and innocent. and it is shameful. i've never had a case where the evidence of innocence is so clear and so immediate and so accessible and not been able to get the state to do the simple thing they have to do to access that evidence. we begged them for years to just simply do the test. and they would rather risk executing an innocent person than risk the perception that somehow they're not tough on crime or that they're not --