horrible things and, you know i am a gay married man, married to jesus, jesus salgueiro. it's absolutely horrible and when elton john came to me, i said honey, sir elton john go for it. he's such a voice for the truth. i support him in boycott dolce & gabbana. honey, i never bought anything for myself. i can only fit a wallet and pair of glasses on my face. he said i'm burning it. >> here's the bigger overarching question. i love the candor from both of you. do you think this -- do you think about their clients. we mentioned the most famous face when i think of it you think of madonna and a lot of power players in the gay community have close ties to fashion, art. i'm wondering, do you think this will ultimately hurt the brand? >> i think so. you know this is not the first time we've had comments like