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>> okay. well, you have certainly seen ross' chats on his phone, right? >> once again, sir, there are so many. it's been very sporadic. i've not had time to absorb all of the information. >> okay. i'm going to approach you then with exhibit 1 and just ask if you've seen this one. >> i have not. >> you have not. >> i have not. >> okay. would it be relevant to your investigation to find out that at 3:16 on june the 18th, ross had texted his wife, "when are you going to get my buddy." would that be relevant? >> it's very relevant. >> okay. >> and you've had his phone, but you haven't seen that? >> no. the last text -- actual text message, if that is a text

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