actually count, and right now we're turning from we the people into we the powerful and the question is what's the accountability for people like jim jordan but also how do we stop this train, this freight train that's moving us off the cliff and those are two separate questions and i don't have any easy answers anymore, ana. when i hear something like that it makes my heart sink. >> we don't even know who all was involved. now we have jim jordan's name but we don't know all of them. do you think that there's a strategy behind the committee not sharing the names of other lawmakers who were sending messages to mark meadows? >> i think the committee at this point has so much information that they need to process and they need to process it very, very rapidly. so, sure. they want to get this information from these key witnesses but they are getting an avalanche, i would guess, of documents, testimony, texts, and they have until really november, the mid-terms to process all of this, and, of course, the committee has no actual power to enforce the law.