worries. should we even think about a second booster for health care providers and i think all of this needs to be put on the table. remember, we don't have the pfizer drug, paxlovid and won't have an omicron-specific booster so we have to deal with the cards that we're dealt with. >> right. >> and maybe a second booster is in the cards. >> i think it's so important to put everything out there, to bes a transparent as possible. information is power, and yet a lot of americans are just so tired of all of this, right? many have done everything you tell them to do. they have got their three shots. they have been wearing masks but now they hear of more shutdowns, more restrictions. we've been told we're beyond the point of snuffing out covid entirely, right? y with ear going have to live with it, so the question is how can we get there, to live with it and still have a sense of normalcy? >> well, again, i think we have to max out our ability to