our vital national interest at this point? when we look at this, i think the ending was -- is really tragic. it's horrible to see the humanitarian chaos there and the fear, and naturally, we wish we could do something to alleviate it. and i hope the presence of our troops will provide some bit of stability there. i hope we will be able to get out the after begans who worked with us that we have a sense of obligation toward. but we have to understand that we have other competing national interests. we have to try to avoid this sort of circular firing squad that's starting in right now, pointing fingers at everybody, trying to make this a political issue in the united states. the truth is all administrations made errors in judgment. they had bad policies. there was bad reporting. there's plenty of blame to go around for everybody. >> sure. >> what we have to do now is pick up the pieces and move forward with america's national interests doing the best we can