>> i honestly don't think he does, and i really think it was to let democrats know that he intends to deal with these people and that he hears democrats when they say, wait a minute, if they are not going to help us in any way, what is the point of dealing with them? democrats have to figure out what their priorities are. if he can get those guys on voting rights, for example, maybe he will give a little on infrastructure. we have yet to see what kind of deal he's going to cut, and that's why he will meet with shelly more cap toe today, who is leading the moderate group of republicans to figure out where they are. i think there's a chessboard here, and he's got to figure out what his next moves are on what particular issue, because they are all coming together kind of at the same time. >> you mention how former president trump has the hold over his party, and there's a new reporting that former