so there are two whistleblowers now involved. the second one is said to have firsthand nknowledge of this juy 25th phone call, according to this whistleblower's attorney. we do know a few things already, don't we? >> we do. if past is prologue, the president will try to out the second whistleblower and bully him or her just like he did with the first one despite the fact that under u.s. law these whistleblowers have the right to make what we call protected disclosures. as federal employees, they have a right to privacy under the privacy act. under the intelligence community whistleblower protection act, they are authorized to make these protected disclosures without fear of retaliation. as members of the intelligence community, that includes retaliation in terms of being fired or any negative impact on their security clearance adjudication process. this first whistleblower said that he or she was not a direct witness. the intelligence community