what he hear about the risk of jail for members of the 1/6 committee. >> vintage gingrich in a way, what vicious buffoonery. and there is not the slightest possibility of any crime there and you're attempted to just disregard it. on the the other hand he is what passes as an intellectual presence in the republican party now with no policy platform except for the big lie. and so, i do -- i'm sure that democrats on the committee and republicans think that there is no bottom to where the republicans will go if they take over after the midterms and hopefully it is not deterring them from doing their very important job of finding out what happened. so, who is to say. but the basic reaction is, you know, what a buffoon. >> but how serious do you take it. because i can't tell if he's engaging in buffoonery, because