before the committee. now, the big open question here is, the form and fashion in which they seek that cooperation. the committee's done this in a variety of different ways. sometimes they send a letter asking for voluntary cooperation. they've done that with sean hannity, for instance, and a few members of congress. other times, they just go straight to the subpoena route and issue that subpoena that would legally force someone to hand over documents and then meet for a deposition. at this point, thompson says they are just reviewing the process and talking through the process before making a final decision as to how they are going to reach out to giuliani, but the key point here, victor and alisyn, is that they are interested in talking to giuliani. they view him as an integral part of their investigation. it now just seems as a matter of when and how they go through that process. >> ryan, the question is, then, how successful, regardless of how they reach out, whether it's a request or a subpoena, will they be in getting rudy giuliani to sit down? we've seen kind of a common