speakers accountable, knowing what they were saying. as jessica said in her story and in err interview with you, much will depend on what comes out in discovery if we get that far. it is important to keep the separate track separate. this is a big fight. whatever the judge rules, whoever loses will surely appeal to the d.c. circuit and eventually the supreme court. this is all happening at the same time as former president trump is still resisting turning over a bunch of documents about january 6 to the january 6 committee, we're also waiting for the supreme court to rule, perhaps as early as next week on whether he'll be able to continue resisting that. so i think congressman dent is right, the bottom line here, the watch-word is accountability and if it can't come through the civil suits, where else can it come from. >> congressman, we heard from the former president bragging about the size of the crowd there at the rally before the insurrection. and this morning on "new day",