we haven't seen a lot of appetite by the doj to actually look to the inner circle of trump. they charged 700 people but those were lower level people, so we'll see about that. >> the other thing is what they were doing was certainly an attempted coup. what these texts are about is the legal part of it. in other words, they're actually trying, within the processes set up to certify the voters, to stop that from happening. they won't be charged based on that. they would have to, instead, know about the illegal way to do the attack. >> are there legal underpinnings? what jim jordan forwarded onto mark meadows, is there something legitimate there? >> no, that memo was a piece of garbage. nobody with a passing acquaintance with the law, and jim jordan, as far as i can tell, i don't think he's a lawyer. i was told he went to law school but never passed the bar, sbut he's a lawmaker and could bypass the code. alexander hamilton at one point said something that is