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protests armed, they are in for a huge surprise. >> eric, it was interesting to hear from kyle rittenhouse's defense attorney, mark richards, saying that he found the 25 hours of jury deliberations, his word was hell, he said it was the longest he has ever waited for a jury verdict, and does that tell you that this wasn't a slam dunk for the jury, that they really were, you know, having to not duke it out in there, but go kind of meticulously through anything. >> yes, alisyn, anytime you have a jury considering a case, even if you think you have a slam dunk, you're nervous. if you're not nervous, you don't need to be a lawyer. people will go in the jury room and they will bring in their thoughts, their beliefs, and sometimes they will sway other people, and when you're having a criminal defense client, unlike the civil side, you're dealing with someone's life, where they may have to spend the rest of their life in prison, so you're

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