off the ships, on to trucks. we'll talk about trucks in a minute, but one of the heads of one of the trade organizations says that this is the low hanging fruit, the obvious next step. is the administration doing enough? can it be doing more? >> well, i think the administration has a short-term and a long-term strategy. the short-term strategy is the 24/7 port opportunity, trying to get more truck drivers on the road by streamlining the c dprks -- cdl process. there's also a long-term strategy and i mentioned that earlier, the ability to invest in expanded processing capacity is going to significantly increase and send a strong message to the market to be able to produce more, we'll be able to process more, which means we'll be able to increase the supply and meet this growing demand. so i think there's both a short-term and a long-term strategy that's at play here. >> you mentioned the truckers, thousands of truckers in need, tens of thousands because of the