really saying to these generals, you know, you have got to make sure i am in the loop on this. now, milley may be criticized for what some may think was overstepping his authority, but according to woodward and costa he felt he couldn't trust trump and that he needed to take any and all necessary precautions to prevent him from doing something dangerous. >> and we will get into that later about why he thought -- >> right. >> -- he couldn't trust president trump. but meanwhile, one of the dramatic scenes in this woodward book takes place in the oval office. it is the night of january 5th, so before the election is supposed to be certified by vice president pence. so what have you learned about this conversation between vice president pence and president trump? >> so we've known the meeting happened. what the book reveals are the actual quotes, the conversation as trump is trying to pressure pence to overturn the election on january 6th. woodward and costa report that