second place, third place surprise there between haley and desantis? >> right. it's really difficult to know, i think, at this point. in many respects, though, i think there's more riding on it for desantis. he's really staked his campaign on iowa and it's hard to imagine him recovering if he doesn't have a strong second place finish. maybe he can outperform in iowa, but to me desantis' campaign looks like it's engaged more in brand management and eliminating political fallout than real competition. desantis is staring at the same polls as anyone else, he's at about 16% statewide in iowa. haley according to the recent des moines register poll had about 20%. i still think the big question is why desantis has failed to resonate. his candidacy was premised on this idea that there was considerable constituency that wanted a trump-like candidate but without the drama. so far that momentum has tipped more toward haley. maybe he does exceed