minister and general gerasimov. this looks very much to me like a putin win. and the most important thing here is the elites, the oligarchs, that everybody keeps waiting to turn on putin, well, this was their shot, and they didn't take it, john. so i think that hope that putin is going to be ousted is really gone now, because there is no other insurrection come anything fi time soon. >> there is no other prigozhin in the wings? >> there is no other prigozhin in the wings. look, coup d'etats aren't military-only events. they're political events with military components. and prigozhin provided the military component of this, but he couldn't come through with the political side. he didn't have political support. and the fact that nobody gave him that support in moscow is indicative that putin still has control, control of the security services, and he has the control