massive task of helping look after all the refugees, despite the fact that president biden said the united states would take 100,000 refugees. these are the differences that exist. the unity has been good. we can expect the kremlin to exploit any gaps, they say. >> on macron, though, nic, why do you think he's so optimistic? he says apparently he's got putin's ears. but they have had meetings with very little results. wipe is he optimistic something may come out of this? >> reporter: president macron typically in his international diplomacy has been optimistic. he was optimistic when he tried to forge a relationship with president trump. and that really eventually went down the drain. it didn't go anywhere. he was optimistic when he went to moscow in the weeks before the war. and a couple of weeks before the