ukrainian reporters and it tracks. i was dubious at the start but we've seen the ukrainian military outperform expectations. and we have seen the russian military underperform. really quite poorly. and i think those numbers, you know, make sense. they -- they may be a little bit high but not by much. if 14,000 is high, then i would -- i would absolutely believe 10. and that is more than the russians would have lost in the same amount of time in afghanistan in the '80s. so, for those russians who are paying attention, this has to start to worry them. >> that is during the whole war that you are talking? and here, we are talking about -- >> right. right. so, um -- >> matthew -- yeah, go ahead. finish your thought. >> this is -- this is a bloodbath for the russians and the question is how they will react to that. >> absolutely. thank you so much. really appreciate your analysis, matthew schmidt speaking to us from new haven, connecticut. coming up, poland has become a refuge for millions of ukrainians with thousands more arriving every day. how long before resources,