youngkin running out with trump at arm's length really made some gains. and let's look at how he did that. >> let me ask you, so then is this a -- is this a -- i don't know if we should call it bellwether or sign of things to come. or is this just a race? because this is the way it normally happens here. biden did win by ten points, right? >> he -- he did. look, democrats have been feeling that virginia was moving their way with population growth and urban and suburban centers. youngkin reset that. and i think that's a real cautionary tale for democrats who thought that a really strong campaigner and former governor like terry mcauliffe could pull it off. here's what i want to show you, though, because it's important. you yo youngkin deserves a lot of credit. he over performed donald trump in every county in the state, red and blue. donald trump was a drag on the republican ticket. youngkin was able to appeal to his base with a lot -- lot of themes. but keep in at arm's length. didn't want to campaign with him and so he was able to win back a lot of moderates and