have you with us at this time to give us vital insight and perspective as to what's playing out right now in jakarta. we appreciate it. and do stand by with us. we may well ask you to join us again to give us more perspective for cnn security and intelligence analyst, bob baer. very interesting what he is saying there, that it looks, it smells like isis. and ultimately, you know, this is a region where, you know, they're growing fast. >> it may look like isis and it could very well be isis, and there are a number of reports out there that this is linked to isis in some way, but at this point, there's no official claim of responsibility. and no official came out publicly to say they believed this is linked to isis .but as bob pointed out, it does have the hallmarks very similar to the attacks carried oit in paris in december. this time, though, the death toll appears to be standing at four. one policeman and three possibly attackers. but it is an ongoing situation.