that's all we can say. we understand gunmen, possiy plural, have gone into this area right across from the starbucks. but as you say, this is -- it's isis inspired. not surprising if that's the case. because it can happen. you've got 500 indonesians possibly that have been training in syria. and they've come back with new ideas possibly. >> sorry, just to clarify. when you say you've heard -- have you heard from the police that this could be linked to isis? or just you've heard, this is what people are saying. >> this is what people are saying to us. we do have some internal u.n. security feed, which is telling us that there are possibly gunmen here. in terms of the connection to isis, i think it might be take some time to establish that. but if groups start claiming it credibly, i imagine quickly that's the kind of thing they do, we will know.