trail actually hurt his chances at getting elected well look i have maintained this is a strange election in that you've got two presidents who are fully known basically fully vetted by the american people. >> i've wondered, is there a single tv ad that's going to make a difference? is there a single rally that's going to make a difference? people know how they feel. so i don't actually think it's going to diminish his chances to get reelected if he doesn't have a few rallies, i don't think so. now, you noted he was supposed to be an old carolina this weekend, and obviously that's become a battleground state. i do hear that it's pretty close down there. so if you're trump, you'd rather be able to do things than not do them. but at the end of the day, i do think trump and biden in are both going to end up winning or losing this rais based on their records, which are both really fresh in the minds of the american people more so than a rally that happened a few months before the november election all right. >> well, i know you'll both be watching very closely tomorrow's those opening statements happen in that new