verts former nasa astronaut, and he retired us air force colonel. colonel, thanks so much for joining us. isn't the expectation that this trash is just going to burn up upon re-entry so that it doesn't hurt anyone well, that's the hope and nasa had done analysis on this piece that they thought it would burnout. but if you look at it, i remember seeing it. it's basically the size of an suv. so i remember thinking, wow, that's a pretty big thing. i bet you have parts of it will make it through & a lot of space debris does make it down to earth usually it ends up in the mountains elton zero. usually it's in the ocean. and so this one was just so big and unfortunately, they ended at a house in naples, florida so i think that the common sense, the conventional wisdom was that most of this stuff just does, does burn up. >> are you saying that that is not normally the case? why is that? the best way then of getting rid of this trash to throw it overboard if so much of it gets through well, the