republican caucus over all of this chaos because how johnson's acting is not so different than what kevin carthy didn't yet he was ousted but again, i think when you talk to rational republicans, i know you talked to them all the time. >> they're really, they're tired of the chaos and confusion. they're running for reelection. some of them are trying to help get themselves reelected. and mike johnson is not focused on a few people saying, we're going to kick you out. he is laser-focused on november. he's going to hit the road and raise money for candidates he's hitting a lot of states in the south. that's where all of their focuses are trying to save their own jobs, but also saved the republican majority in the house. alice made a good point, which is they understand that they're up for reelection and if they kept acting the way that they have been acting up until now he's a huge dumpster fire in congress they know that democrats would absolutely take over the house. >> i still think that will happen because americans do not want to see the repeat over and over again. and we still, that could still happen. >> and no doubt they will get a lot of questions on the campaign trail about ukraine