those conversations? right and you're so at such an important point is like separating out that palace intrigue and kind of the juicy tidbits with what is legally relevant and quickly before i let you go. just the fact that we're getting to the point now where the former vice president has been compelled to testify, we know that they have compelled all of these close aides, people like mark meadows , the former chief of staff, steven miller, people that were very close to the president are being compelled to testify. what does that tell you about where we're getting in this process? well look, it's certainly there's a very serious investigation. going on. part of the problem is that everything that happens in the grand jury by wa is secret. it has to be kept secret, so we don't really don't know what they're being asked about or what cases or you know what sort of criminal charges might be brought here. but certainly they're homing in on resume folks in or around the white house. this is very serious. they're moving along. i would have based on what we're seeing. it would seem that someone was getting charged with the crime at some point, but again, it's all secret. i don't