he was shot because he was carrying a gun they obviously wanted to make it look like a real firearm. that's why there was no orange tip. >> i want to bring that can't, exactly that. very quickly, ben, then to you mark should guns that look so real that are fake, should thought be made and sold? >> look i think that guns -- that we have rules where they're supposed to be an orange tip. >> but it was remove. >> kids many times paint over them to make that gun look real because they want it to look real on the streets. that's unfortunate. look if you want more owner, that's one thing, but ultimately people if they want to do these things they'll do it. >> mark very quickly. >> black people get killed with orange tips. they get killed versus keys skittles arizona iced tea, they get killed with their hands up. to pretend the difference of the color of the tip is unfair. white kids have guns -- police