it's really hard for me because like you said, there's so much of a problem between the mayor and the police commissioner. >> yep. >> so it's really tough. >> okay. weigh in, gil, because i can tell even by your body language there that you're -- >> you know what, we keep going to the mayor and the police department and really he's saying approval about the mayor, these officers know the mayor does not like cops, okay? i don't really care what he says, but that's what they feel. however, they have to get together. our discussion, i think, is getting so far i way from the two officers who were new york city police officers. not only changed their clothes and went and sat in the car. they were doing overtime from a different precinct. >> let's bring it back to those two officers. >> i think that's true. that's how they feel. because of the rhetoric there's nothing to say the mayor doesn't support the police officers. >> it is about the two police officers. >> let me ask gil to finish that thought because it's a very appropriate one.