i was the campaign manager. i managed him right into retirement. a lot of it is the same thing. people loved it but he was never there. he was also traveling around the country giving these wonderful speeches. but what people want, i think, is they want these guys in front of costco shaking hands, not talking to candy on state of the union. they want their congressman to be their congressman. >> do you think the stunning defeat is more attitudes about eric cantor than about david brat? >> i think it is a combination of the two. eric cantor spent more time in washington climbing up the political ladder. he had his eyes on the majority,