they had the fence, a requirement of federal regulations and the surveillance cameras, also a requirement. the third component is someone actually watching the surveillance cameras's apparently in did not have and only looked at them later. a huge gap in security. what's the point of the billion of dollars of equipment we've purchased after 9/11 if nobody pays attention to it? >> should we be concerned on a national scale this might be happening at other airports across the country? >> oh, it is. it is happening all over. we've put the equipment in place and rely heavily on the equipment. we assume the equipment once we buy the equipment and put it in place and in some ways have the problem with september 11th. put in, back then, much older generation equipment, though, but metal detectors, x-ray equipment and then the screeners just routinely ignored them. so i think it's a little bit of a wake-up call here. it's time to actually look at the equipment that we have, and