some americans have serious misgivings about whether the president should be ordering the attacks because of the collateral damage. what are your thoughts about that? >> i wasn't personed about the strikes when i was on the inside. you have to respect the fact that everybody has a soul. that said if you're looking at an individual who is contemplating the murder of innocents you cannot allow that operation to continue. the question and what people like me call this forever war, the question is when we're transitioning from taking out leadership to looking at a civil war we are a heck of a long way from killing al qaeda leaders 13 years ago. >> phil, thank you so much for joining me. i appreciate it. >> coming up, we will take you