he did just a second ago a zero. this is how he feels about the united states of america. then he does a chop. that chop with his hand is very aggressive. it's like a karate chop. we used to see with bill clinton, they did the thumb of power, america, i want you to listen. he's not using his little thumb. the thumb of power is a combination of pointing and chopping. putin is not taking the softer approach. he's taking, this is who america is, he's calling us lab rats, we're doing experiments. we're a big fat zero in his book. he's trying to intimidate us. >> what about deception, what are the signs of deception that helps him, for example, perhaps with a liar? >> it's interesting that you're asking me that. one sign is contempt, which is moral superiority. it looks like this. it's a smirk on the face. and shoulder shrugs indicates