economy that has tipped the balance toward those who want to see a closer relationship with western europe. so i think that it is that we are in a very sobering moment. i do not agree with the notion that we should not have enlarged nato, and should not have brought poland in and these others burk i do believe that we have to understand that when you get right up gaiagainst the rusn border in places like georgia and ukraine, you have to really think very carefully about those kinds of moves. >> well, it is a sobering assessment from both of you and that what is happening in crimea, a tie theny corner of ukraine has implications of the region and very much beyond. and thank you, stephen cohen who is nyu professor, and princeton emeritus and christopher hill. and now just a few days ago