interviews, you know, on entertainment weekly or any of these types of shows, because it is opening him up to a whole different audience. he did an interview with bill owe really. it didn't go so well during super bowl. the fact of the hat tmatter is,e are folks that watch cnn or fox news. a whole lot of other folks that tune in to entertainment programs or only tune into sports programs. this allows the president to reach those viewers. when you have charles barclay interviewing the president, it gives him an opportunity to reach out to a different type of viewer. >> mark preston, thanks as usual. thanks for joining me. berman and michaela starts after the break ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short