turn to and say, what do you do? how do you prepare? >> first of all, the weather drama that was supposed to be in green bay didn't happen. it was a balmy 5 degrees. fancy that. there's nothing can you do. >> wimps up there. >> that's exactly right. but i tell you, two games come to mind. i was there in 1980 when the oakland raiders played the cleveland browns in cleveland for a playoff game. you probably remember the game. 0 degrees during kick off it was so. we talked a little bit about this, freeze bowl, cincinnati against san diego. it was 40 degrees. back then, minus 9 actual temperature, minus 59 wind chill factor. ohio river froze over.