brooding, never around. he was the reason, the headline, the elder tsarnaev that bra brainwashed the younger. that's the thing about the piece. you find it's more like they were co-conspirators. >> right, and the thing is this idea of, you know, devout certain radicalized tamerlan pushing lanky, you know, stoner dzhokhar into doing this, turns on its head. you have unhinged tamerlan and dzhokhar, drug dealer, manipulative, sense of invulnerability, risk taker, and a guy who just as easily might have been the guy who said, let's go along and do this. there isn't this idea of dzhokhar being radicalized. it's this idea of dzhokhar being a thrill-seeking criminal who doesn't think anything can happen to him. >> and then finally, with this family, david, i mean the real reason the sartsarnaevs came toe