how else would you describe it? it is beyond the pale that people think it is acceptable. i just don't understand why you can't make your point. you can make your point in a very tough, critical way without crossing these lines. but he just tells you why there are certain folks in the republican party have no grasp of reality in terms of why they lose elections. this is why they lose elections. >> listen, both parties are alienating voters and i know this is not, these is not ted cruz's words. this is not his father. he's not a public figure, an elected official. whatever role this is, amy holmes, i want to ask you, does this hurt the tea party? >> i think that it serves to hurt those who advocate for conservative and free market principals when it gets into the free-market attacks. i agree with chris on that basis. it turns off the voters and drives down voter turnout during elections when the attacks get