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how is it that people get security clearances with police records? apparently alexis told the navy at one point, he didn't declare it on his form, the arrest, because it was dismissed. now the navy is saying what they think needs to happen is every time somebody gets a security clearance all their police record documentation is included but that's after the fact. >> does that mean that if the navy had known about alexis' gun arrest, he would not have become a navy reservist in the first place? >> well, we asked that. and in hindsight, nobody is going to give you the absolute answer. they're not going to really say. but, look, he had this gun violence issue. he had documented faulty credit records. a lot of documentation on how he was trying to fix all his problems in his life, including his bad credit rating. it's hard to see these days in retrospect how and why he got a security clearance based on the standards that we know are in effect. the navy not willing to go so far as to say they wouldn't

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