been mischaracterized as being either pro or anti-gun. we're neither and we're not a policy-maker. we are a company that is in business to serve customers. and as a result of the misz characterization as well as a number of episodes in which people have walked into our stores carrying guns. customers have felt significantly uncomfortable. children have felt uncomfortable. >> so, poppy, that seems like kind of a cop-out to me. he's talked about a lot of social issues. he puts his views right out there. so why not say you're pro or anti-gun? >> i hear you. that was a question to him as well. starbucks has come out vocally pro-gay marriage. last year he will called on all americans to stop political donations until washington really got its act together. so they've been out in front with a clear, clear message on controversial topics. >> poppy? i'm sorry. i have to interrupt you, but the