responders on the airport property. some of that we've already talked about yesterday. i have seen and heard some reports about a 4,000-per-minute -- 4,000-foot-per-minute descent rate. they have reviewed the radar data. and the group that reviewed the initial faa radar data have indicated that there's no abnormally steep descent curve that's been detected in the data that they have. our power plants team has conducted an on-scene examination of the two engines. they indicate those preliminary evaluations indicate that both of the engines were producing power at the time of impact. and this is consistent with