little. and that's what happened apparently, at least it seems that way. especially you look at the debris, you can see that there was a stick made by the aircraft just prior to the time they even got to the threshold of the runway, nevertheless the runway itself. >> jim tillmon, stand by. thank you very much. we want to get live, live pictures on the ground, cnn's dan simon at san francisco international airport. dan, we listened to that press conference just a short time ago. you were there. what information are you getting in? >> reporter: you know, basically they just wanted to confirm the information that we already know, that there was this crash and that they wanted to tell us the process going forward, and that is, "a," they want to secure the scene and, "b," to let the media know that there are going to be briefings every hour on the hour, so you can expect the next press briefing to be at 6:00 eastern time. meanwhile, don, i'm outside of the international terminal, and it looks just like you normally expect on a saturday afternoon. people standing around with