the damage to be able to say what you're looking at, first of all, the fact that the -- the roof of the aircraft, the fuselage, has burned out, we see that quite frequently whenever there is a fire particularly if it's a fuel-fed fire from one of the wing tanks. we saw that in the british airways years ago where the plane guts itself right the way along the aircraft. and what's interesting the way it is localized in the midsection, forward section and hasn't gone further back beyond the wing area. again, look at the picture of the rear of the aircraft. you can see the pressure dome, the rear pressure dome, which is what keeps the thing pressurized, the green thing right at the end has been fractured as the tail separated from the aircraft. a very large debris field. the plane not even on the runway. all of these are leading -- it's way too soon to give any form of judgment as to obviously what has happened. >> right. >> but what we can clearly say it was upon what was to be a