describe the other one? >> higher pitched. >> the yells for help that you heard at that time, could you identify whether it was the dominant, louder voice or the higher pitched one? >> in my opinion, i truly believe, especially the second yell for help that was like a -- a yelp. it was excruciating. i really felt it was the boy's voice. after hearing the yelps for help, i still was staring down out the window. i just know it was still one person on top of each other. then i heard, like a -- from my window, pop, pop, pop. and, you know, i don't know what a gun really sounds like. i just know it was like three popping noises. >> first voice we want to bring in here is that of martin savidge. he's covering the trial for us there in sanford, florida. and so, martin, this woman, this first witness out of the gate today, jane, we hear her describe these voices, right? and ultimately one, you know,