patients and the last people running this charity want to do is answer questions. >> don't turn your camera on me, okay? >> reporter: across the country, in mesa, arizona, another outpost of the conglomerate. it's called the breast cancer society. its ceo and executive director? the man escaping in the truck james reynolds jr. excuse me, sir, mr. reynolds. excuse me, mr. reynolds, right here, buddy. mr. reynolds, hi, hi, can you stop for a second? where you going, mr. reynolds? mr. reynolds? back in knoxville, there's another cancer charity, the children's cancer fund of america. and this one run by yet another member of the family. rose perkens. hi, is rose perkins in? >> she's unavailable and she's not doing any interviews at all. >> reporter: why wouldn't she give us an interview? she's running a charity for kids with cancer, it seems like a good idea. >> it does. i've been told to tell you she's not doing any interviews.