o'connor died. that was a very, very sad night for her and for america as well. the two of them were bound together like -- who could forget the honeymooners. a lot of people thought all in the family was sort of a spinoff from the ancient jackie gleason show. also an interesting aspect, that was originally a british show called till death do us part. it was brought over to the united states. it was not a hit immediately. in fact, they were thinking of dropping it. the summer reruns, they ran it in the summer, it clicked in the summer and pushed it to a new night and the rest, as they say, is history. >> larry, a lot of people say that about maureen being her sister. i don't think maureen was actually her sister. i think that's something that sort of come about over the years and people assumed that. but, you know, to get back to her. she won three emmys for that role. you know, to win three emmys for a role that you put -- for one role, that's a heck of a lot.